President Biden announced plans for a new policy that would make certain undocumented spouses of U.S. citizens who are longtime residents eligible for a path to lawful permanent residency from within the U.S. and up to three years of parole and work authorization. The administration also announced other forthcoming actions to make it easier for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals beneficiaries to obtain a temporary work visa.

Key Points:

  • The Department of Homeland Security will establish a new process to consider applications on a case-by-case basis. To be considered eligible, an individual must:
    • Be present in the U.S. without admission or parole;
    • Have been continuously present in the U.S. for at least 10 years as of June 17, 2024; and
    • Have a legally valid marriage to a U.S. citizen as of June 17, 2024.
  • If their application for parole in place is approved, the undocumented immigrant would have three years to apply for a green card and receive a temporary work permit. A DHS fact sheet provides an overview of the plans.
  • An estimated 500,000 spouses and 50,000 children are expected to be eligible, enabling these noncitizens to apply for lawful permanent residence without having to leave the United States. Currently, even though spouses of U.S. citizens are eligible for permanent residence as immediate relatives, those who entered the U.S. unlawfully must leave the country and risk being subject to the 10-year bar under immigration law.
  • Biden also announced plans for a streamlined process allowing certain individuals, including DACA beneficiaries, who earned U.S. degrees in higher education and have high-skilled job offers to more quickly receive work visas.

BAL Analysis: While this announcement outlines the administration’s plans to protect undocumented spouses and certain Dreamers, the specific details about how the processes will be implemented are still forthcoming. It is anticipated that the Biden administration will face court challenges.

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Employers filing H-1B cap petitions for fiscal year 2025 are reminded that the filing period closes June 30.

Key Points:

  • Petitioners must file a petition for candidates who were selected in the H-1B lottery by June 30 in order for the petition to be considered.
  • Only petitioners with selected registrations may file H-1B cap-subject petitions for the beneficiary named in the selected registration notice.
  • U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services received 479,953 total registrations for this year’s H-1B lottery, a figure substantially lower than last year’s record-breaking 780,884. The agency attributed the decline to the undertaking of fraud investigations and implementation of the new beneficiary-centric selection process.

BAL Analysis: Companies should work with their BAL professional to ensure that their H-1B cap petitions are filed before the June 30 deadline. Employers may also wish to work with their BAL attorney to consider alternatives for registrations that were not selected in March’s lottery. BAL will continue to monitor whether USCIS will conduct a second round of H-1B selections for FY 2025.

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It is no exaggeration to say that the 2024 presidential election may have dramatic consequences on U.S. immigration.

The Republican candidate, former President Donald Trump, and the Democratic nominee, Vice President Kamala Harris, differ not only in their rhetoric about immigration but also in the policies their administrations pursued in their respective terms in office. While unauthorized immigration and the border dominate the headlines, business immigration would bear the impact of a change in administrations as well.

So, what do employers think?

BAL recently surveyed business leaders about their immigration programs, how they plan to support their workforce and how they are preparing for the election. In all, we received 111 responses. Answers varied, but a few trends emerged.

  • Foreign talent needs: Respondents have found it easier to meet foreign talent needs in the last four years and identified the changes they would like to see the Biden-Harris administration finalize before the end of the President’s term.
  • Commitment to workforce: Employers remain committed to supporting their foreign national employees, even amid political uncertainty.
  • Preparing for possible change: Companies grasp the importance of the election, but many of them say they have not begun preparing for — or communicating to stakeholders about — potential changes.

Meeting foreign talent needs

Nearly 6 in 10 respondents (59%) said their organization found it “somewhat” or “much” easier to meet foreign talent needs in the last four years. Another 23% said there was not much change for their organization, while 18% said it was “much harder” or “somewhat harder.”

We also asked about the potential changes the administration should prioritize for the remainder of Biden’s term, allowing respondents to pick more than one answer.

  • 70% said finalizing H-1B “modernization” proposals.
  • 63% said developing a permanent, expanded domestic visa renewal program.
  • 55% said making improvements to adjustment of status.
  • 25% selected two of these three priorities, while 32% listed all three.

Other priorities for employers included reducing Department of Labor wait times, stabilizing Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) and securing the U.S.-Mexico border.

Support for foreign national employees

While the election has the potential to disrupt immigration policies and procedures, employers remain committed to their foreign national employees.

Two-thirds of respondents (67%) said they “are doing as much as (they) can” with existing resources to protect the work status of foreign national employees prior to the election. An additional 15% said they are expanding resources.

Preparation and communication

Respondents were split regarding when they will start planning for possible changes, with roughly half saying they have already begun doing so or will this summer and the other half saying they will wait until the fall or after the election.

A plurality of survey respondents said they had not yet begun communicating with their organization’s leadership or foreign national employees but that they plan to do so.

It is understandable that many employers said they don’t know where to start when communicating about the election. The uncertainty of the outcome makes preparation and communication difficult.

There are steps employers can take now, however, including encouraging foreign national employees to move up their timelines for travel and visa renewals; prioritizing certain petition filings to take advantage of current policies; and reviewing employee populations and company policies to help identify the likely effects of a potential change in administration.

BAL is able to assist in these endeavors and will continue providing additional information and resources as we move through election season.

About the survey

BAL’s election survey was open to the public May 14 through June 5. There was a total of 111 survey respondents, with immigration program sizes ranging from fewer than 10 petitions to more than 500 petitions filed per year. Respondents included a mix of in-house attorneys, immigration program managers and human resources and global mobility professionals, among others.

Respondent industries

Respondents represented more than 20 industries, including:

  • Arts, media and entertainment
  • Education
  • Energy, environment and utilities
  • Engineering and architecture
  • Finance and insurance
  • Gaming
  • Healthcare
  • Hospitality, tourism and recreation
  • Information and communication technology
  • Manufacturing and product development
  • Pharmaceutical, life sciences and biotech
  • Professional services
  • Religious
  • Retail
  • Semiconductors
  • Transportation

Respondent program size

Respondents represent businesses with small, mid-size and large immigration programs.

Steve Plastrik is a senior associate on BAL’s Government Strategies team. If you are interested in speaking with a BAL attorney about how to prepare for any election outcome, contact us. To learn more about BAL Community, visit https://community.bal.com.

Coalition for the American Dream published a report this week detailing the projected economic and societal costs of ending the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.

Key Points:

  • Coalition for the American Dream published the report days ahead of the 12th anniversary of the DACA program on June 15.
  • Current DACA recipients number more than 500,000. The report finds that future long-term economic losses and costs could approach $1 trillion over the lifetimes of DACA recipients.
  • Other economic and workforce impacts include:
    • As many as 168,000 U.S. jobs in DACA-owned businesses could be lost.
    • U.S. workforce losses could include 37,000 healthcare workers, 17,000 STEM professionals and 17,000 educators.
    • Lost business training and recruitment costs for current DACA employees could reach $8 billion.

Additional Information: The report’s demographic and economic estimates and business impacts are based in part on data collected in the U.S. Census Bureau’s 2022 American Community Survey, the March 2022-2023-2024 Current Population Surveys and data from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.

Coalition for the American Dream is an organization of more than 100 businesses, trade associations and other groups representing every major sector of the U.S. economy and more than half of American private sector workers. Its mission is to seek the passage of bipartisan legislation that gives Dreamers a permanent solution.

BAL Analysis: The report notes if DACA ended and work authorizations were denied renewal, 440,000 workers would be forced from the U.S. workforce over a two-year period, with the most acute impact on health, education and STEM occupations. The business community continues to show strong support for DACA and the crucial role Dreamers play in the U.S. economy. Given the uncertain environment, DACA recipients who qualify for a renewal are urged to apply for one as soon as they can. BAL will continue to follow the litigation challenging DACA and will provide updates as information becomes available.

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The American Immigration Lawyers Association announced its newly elected officers at the 2024 AILA Annual Conference and installed Kelli Stump as AILA president and BAL’s Jeff Joseph as president-elect.

Key Points:

  • Kelli Stump is the association’s 78th president. She will serve for the 2024-25 term and has been recognized on several occasion as “Lawyer of the Year” in immigration law in Oklahoma City.
  • President-elect Jeff Joseph is a partner with BAL managing its Denver office, a past elected director of AILA’s board of governors and adjunct professor at the University of Denver College of Law.
  • Other officers elected for the 2024-25 term include:
    • Alexis S. Axelrad, first vice president, is AILA’s first elected vice president, a partner with Barst & Mukamal LLP, a past chair of the New York Chapter of AILA and a past elected director of AILA’s board of governors.
    • Jacqueline Watson, second vice president, is a partner with JLW Immigration Law Group, a former AILA Texas Chapter chair and elected director of AILA’s national board of directors.
    • Rekha Sharma-Crawford, treasurer, is a partner with Sharma-Crawford Attorneys-at-Law, was the first South Asian American secretary of AILA and a past elected director of AILA’s board of governors.
    • Michelle Saenz-Rodriguez, secretary, is the co-founder and senior partner at Saenz-Rodriguez & Associates, a former chair for the Texas Chapter of AILA and a past elected director of AILA’s board of governors.

Additional Information: Founded in 1946, AILA is a nonpartisan, nonprofit, voluntary bar association that provides continuing legal education, professional services, information and expertise to more than 16,000 attorneys who practice and teach immigration law.

Its mission is to promote justice, advocate for fair and reasonable immigration law and policy, advance the quality of immigration and nationality law and practice, and enhance the professional development of AILA members.

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The U.S. State Department released the July Visa Bulletin, showing advancement in key employment-based categories. However, all countries under EB-3, excluding China and India, will retrogress by almost a year. U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services confirmed that in July it will use Final Action Dates to determine filing eligibility.

Final Action Dates Movement:

EB-1

  • China EB-1 will advance two months to Nov. 1, 2022.
  • India EB-1 will advance 11 months to Feb. 1, 2022.
  • All other countries under EB-1, including Mexico and the Philippines, will remain current.

EB-2

  • China EB-2 will advance one month to March 1, 2020.
  • India EB-2 will advance two months to June 15, 2012.
  • All other countries under EB-2, including Mexico and the Philippines, will advance two months to March 15, 2023.

EB-3

  • China EB-3 will remain the same.
  • India EB-3 will advance one month to Sept. 22, 2012.
  • All other countries under EB-3, including Mexico and the Philippines, will retrogress almost a year to Dec. 1, 2021.

Final Action Dates for Employment-Based Preference Cases:

Preference All Other Countries China India Mexico Philippines
EB-1 Current Nov. 1, 2022 Feb. 1, 2022 Current Current
EB-2 March 15, 2023 March 1, 2020 June 15, 2012 March 15, 2023 March 15,

2023

EB-3 Dec. 1, 2021 Sept. 1, 2020 Sept. 22, 2012 Dec. 1, 2021 Dec. 1, 2021

Additional Information: As predicted in the June Visa Bulletin, the State Department said it has become necessary to retrogress the worldwide EB-3 final action date (including Mexico and the Philippines) effective in July. USCIS notes that because of continued high demand and number use in this category, it will likely be necessary to either further retrogress the final action date or make the category “unavailable” in August. BAL will continue to monitor the situation and provide updates as information becomes available.

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The Labor Department has posted updated processing times for permanent labor certification (PERM) applications and prevailing wage determination (PWD) requests.

PERM Processing Times: As of June 1, the department was adjudicating applications filed in May 2023 and earlier, conducting audit reviews on applications filed in December 2022 and earlier, and reviewing appeals for reconsideration filed in August 2023 and earlier.

Average Number of Days to Process PERM Applications

Determinations      Month                   Calendar Days

Analyst Review        March 2024            387

Audit Review            March 2024            478

PWD Processing Times: As of June 1, the National Prevailing Wage Center was processing PWD requests filed in January 2024 and earlier for H-1B OEWS cases and December 2023 and earlier for PERM OEWS cases. For H-1B non-OEWS cases, the department was processing requests filed in June 2023 and earlier. For PERM non-OEWS cases, the department was processing requests filed in April 2023 and earlier. Redeterminations were being considered on appeals filed in January 2024 and earlier for H-1B cases and December 2023 for PERM cases. Finally, Center Director Reviews were being conducted for both H-1B and PERM cases filed in August 2023 and earlier.

BAL Analysis: BAL’s internal case tracking is mostly consistent with the Labor Department’s published processing times. Our internal data is indicating that for PERM a May 2023 issuance is in progress. For PWDs, we are seeing many validity start dates for December 2023 and several for January 2024.

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The Department of Labor received more than 2,000 comments in response to its Request for Information on whether to revise its list of Schedule A job classifications that do not require permanent labor certification.

Key Points:

  • Schedule A has not been updated since 2004.
  • Comments from the business community — including Fortune 100 companies and business groups and organizations such as Business Roundtable, Compete America and The Institute for Progress — generally encouraged the agency to modernize Schedule A by:
    • Establishing a regular schedule for updating the list so that it does not become outdated;
    • Creating a data-driven methodology to identify shortages; and
    • Accepting feedback from the public.
  • The AFL-CIO submitted a comment urging DOL to limit Schedule A rather than broaden it and to only waive the labor market test for “Group II” positions that require exceptional ability in the sciences, arts or performing arts.

Additional Information: DOL published this RFI in December 2023 in response to a directive from President Biden in the October 2023 Executive Order on Artificial Intelligence, and accepted comments until May 13. Many of the comments in favor of updating Schedule A reminded DOL of this directive, arguing that taking this action would serve important national interests and ensure the United States continues to lead in critical fields.

BAL Analysis: The RFI was a preliminary step in the rulemaking process, and DOL will now review this information and determine its next steps. BAL will continue to monitor developments relating to Schedule A and will provide updates as information becomes available.

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The Department of Homeland Security published a proposed regulation today to amend and clarify regulations on the 9-11 Response and Biometric Entry-Exit Fee (9-11 Biometric Fee) for H-1B and L-1 visas. The 9-11 Biometric Fee only applies to petitioning employers with 50 or more employees, with more than 50% of employees in the U.S. in H-1B or L-1 nonimmigrant status.

Key Points:

  • The proposed regulatory changes would codify the agency’s interpretation of ambiguous statutory language to require:
    • Covered employers submit the 9-11 Biometric Fee for all extension-of-stay petitions, including those that do not involve a change of employer.
    • The 9-11 Biometric Fee be submitted for these petitions regardless of whether a Fraud Fee applies.
  • The 9-11 Biometric Fee would continue to apply unchanged to petitions seeking an initial grant of status or change of employer.
  • Public comments must be received by July 8 and can be submitted here.

Additional Information: DHS states in the proposed regulation that these changes will help DHS comply with its congressional mandate to implement a biometric entry-exit data system. The proposed regulation can be read here in its entirety.

BAL Analysis: Any changes to fee requirements for covered employers would not take effect until after DHS considers the comments it receives and issues a final regulation. This fee only applies to companies with 50 or more employees, with more than 50% of employees in the U.S. in H-1B or L-1 status. Currently, on top of other filing fees, covered employers pay $4,000 extra for each H-1B petition and $4,500 extra for each L-1 (for initial petitions and change-of-employer petitions), but not extensions of stay with the same employer.

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This month, Kelli Duehning, a BAL partner and head of the San Francisco office, joined WERC President and CEO Anupam Singhal for a frank discussion about corporate immigration issues in this unique election year, what the implications are for employers of foreign nationals and what they can do to prepare for any election outcome.

Watch this special segment of WERC’s The One Take here.

Read the transcript below.

Anupam Singhal: All right, welcome to The One Take, Kelli. It’s great to have you here today with the election season, might I say, in full swing and changes in global mobility resulting from that on the horizon. I think we’re in for a really fascinating conversation, so let’s get right into it.

Kelli Duehning: Great, thank you. Well, it’s a pleasure to be here, and I do look forward to diving into these certainly important topics.

Singhal: Awesome. Well, Kelli, you know this is obviously a unique election year with both presidential candidates having previously served one term. What implications do you think we can expect to have, depending on the election results, on U.S. immigration policy?

Duehning: This election is definitely very unique, and it’s going to be a unique experience in that we’re going to be able to make some predictions based upon previous actions and also plan ahead where possible. So, like most cases, if an incumbent wins the reelection — in this case, President Biden — we can expect more of the same of what he’s been doing, with maybe a higher intensity since this would be his final term.

But this time, if the challenger takes the election — in this case, President Trump — we can also anticipate what we expect: probably a more amplified version of what he did during his first term. Those of us who have been involved in immigration programs through both administrations have already seen how the opposing policies have impacted their programs and can be more proactive in how to respond as an organization.

Singhal: Just picking on that for a second, I think you’re sort of suggesting it but not quite saying it, so I’ll say it: Immigration is obviously a very significant concern. It seems like, in fact, it’s a top concern for voters in the U.S. And the two candidates seem to have polar opposite approaches, at least the rhetoric as such. Given that and what you were just saying at the end of your comments there, how are you advising clients and businesses to prepare their immigration programs for whatever the outcome ends up being?

Duehning: Right. So, you know the first term of the Biden administration has pushed forward an ambitious regulatory agenda. For example, he’s been piloting the foreign nationals, allowing them to renew their visas in the U.S., which hasn’t been available since 9/11. He’s been expanding pathways for foreign workers to qualify, let’s say, for national interest waivers and adding to the STEM lists. They’ve been putting the fast track on green card processes, and he’s also looking to overhaul the H-1B lottery system to reduce fraud. So for example, if President Biden wins a second term, we can expect more of that same stuff — an environment where the administration is very receptive to feedback and ideas from the private sector and quite frequently actively seeking, actively looking for ways to modernize immigration pathways to ensure the immigration system is functioning.

I also note, though, that while we can rely on President Biden’s administration to continue to move forward in that realm, it is important that you know the outcome of the congressional elections could certainly affect the oversight or either promote or hinder that that agenda as well.

Singhal: Right. It’s interesting, I was at a forum five weeks ago, and there were some immigration updates or just regulatory updates being provided by someone on the Hill. And the bottom line was that there’s regulatory logjam, basically because of just where Congress is and how divided things are in D.C. And you’re right that depending on how the election goes, it may not just come down to the presidential election itself and who ends up in that office but what the rest of Congress looks like. Interesting.

So what can businesses expect to be facing if President Trump ends up coming into office and you know, I’m trying to remember, what the hallmarks of his immigration policy were four years ago. Based on current rhetoric and outlined platform, etc., what are you all seeing and what are you advising clients to keep in mind?

Duehning: I think that’s great, and I think you really led it off earlier by saying certainly opposing views in how they want to address immigration. So in Trump’s first term, we saw a lot of restrictions and barriers put in place to really limit both illegal and legal immigration. The focus was more on promoting that local workforce, making sure businesses are hiring with U.S. workers versus foreign nationals. So for example, we saw a lot of the broad travel bans. We saw that the Trump administration tried to narrow those eligibility requirements for H-1B applicants, driving up costs for recruiting and retaining foreign talent, limiting international students’ abilities not only to stay but also to work after they’ve received their U.S. degrees. So if Trump wins a second term, we really do anticipate even more restrictions and policies to reduce immigration, mostly probably driven by executive orders — again, depending upon how the congressional elections go — but probably driven by those executive orders, certainly starting with reversing a lot of the Biden policies that were passed by executive order.

We can anticipate that the Trump administration will certainly implement the majority of recommendations by the Heritage Foundation. If you’ve not read that report, I really encourage you all to read the Heritage Foundation’s immigration report. What it does is it’s requesting a lot of different things, but certainly dramatically raising filing fees and ending a lot of the quasi status-type programs like DACA and all the parole programs that the Biden administration had started. And the reason why we say that you should be looking at that Heritage Foundation road map and then plan based upon that road map is that during his first term, he took the Heritage Foundation recommendations and implemented over 60% of them. So it’s a really good way, I think, to kind of anticipate where he’s going to be going.

Singhal: You said the Heritage Foundation?

Duehning: Yeah, the Heritage Foundation. We can certainly share that with folks. I know in ERC and the Global Immigration Forum, we’re certainly looking at that and are happy to be sharing out a lot of that information with folks in the various Mobility Minutes and other areas where we can share that information.

Singhal: I absolutely appreciate it. I think that would be very valuable, and so I encourage folks to try and get ahold of the Heritage Foundation — what do you call it? The Heritage Foundation —?

Duehning: Their immigration road map and their suggestions to the Trump administration.

Singhal: Correct — okay, got it. I need to get ahold of that for myself and read that front to back — that’ll be bedtime reading for me today. Hopefully it’ll put me to sleep and not wild me out. We’ll see.

Duehning: It’s interesting because this isn’t just an election year in the U.S., right? Right now we have over, I think it’s like over 60 elections worldwide. So how do you think those might also impact the global mobility, the rest of the world’s immigration or global mobility programs?

Singhal: I think it’s closer to like two-thirds of the world’s population is going through an election this year, which is nuts. So it’s obviously the U.S. The U.K., which folks might have seen in the news, the prime minister, he’s asked for an early — effectively a referendum on his administration set for July 4 elections there. India just went through and is still in the process of wrapping up its elections. The European Union, I think Mexico, South Africa and I think a number of other countries as well.

I think what it seems, what’s sort of undeniable is we seem to be in this phase where populism is quite pronounced, even in very unexpected places. Nationalism and populism is quite strong, and so I think the expectation generally is that will continue — there’s no signs of that changing anytime soon, at least in the major economies. As a result, I think what I’ve heard and seen based on that, it just feels like things are going to be more complicated for global mobility, cross-border mobility, to happen compared to the way it was before.

So just more complexity, more cost, more friction and essentially, in some ways, in some strange ways, it actually makes the need for this industry that much more pronounced and everyone in this industry that much more necessary. Because the expertise of folks like yourselves and others in different areas, whatever those areas might be — you know, the expertise and your efficiency in being able to assist folks being able to cross those borders in whatever context it might be — tax, immigration or even just moving and housing and so on — is going to be super important to making sure that people get productive. They can get to where they need to get to, and businesses can get them there in a timely fashion and then actually make them productive. Great callout — it’s definitely very interesting times, not dull by any means, let’s put it that way.

So let me ask about businesses: You threw out a number of things that made sense. DACA doesn’t quite relate exactly to businesses — I mean, it’s something that a lot of people obviously care about for one reason or another, whatever side of the fence you might be on. But things, like what you were talking about green cards, perhaps to some extent H-1Bs and so on — maybe if you can spend a couple of minutes expanding on what are some of the things that might be contrasting on two sides around some of the key policy areas that will impact businesses and their ability to attract or acquire talent from wherever they might want to.

Duehning: Yeah, I think that’s really the important issue: What can businesses do now? How can they protect their foreign national population, retain that talent? We’re certainly recommending that businesses start preparing their foreign national employees and leadership teams immediately. I think that’s why it’s so important that we’re having this conversation — it’s really going to be important for them to start, as you were saying, as borders may be more difficult to move to and from — it’s really starting to identify those work groups that are going to need to be ready to be prepared for these changes. So identifying people within your organization who can be on the know and on the go with these changes so that they can relay these real-time updates to their impacted employees and be able to establish that plan of action.

And that’s really right now — I mean, you know, a lot of us should be in that planning phase at this point, and knowing who you should be prioritizing, who needs that protection within your employee population. So like we’ve been telling folks, what are your at-risk categories? To your point: If it’s going to be difficult to move to this country or come to the United States, but they’re critical to be here, what is it that you need to do now to make sure that they’ve got that long-term protection? Are there certain nationalities that need additional protection? For example, here in the United States we know that there’s going to be certain travel bans from certain countries most likely if there is a Trump administration — so how are you going to protect those folks? What do you need to do to make sure that they have that long-term protection so that you can retain them here or get them to the country that they need to go to so that they can then also have that long-term protection?

Are there certain business interests that your that your company has? What if you’re starting a new project or you’re going to be launching a new project and there’s certain employees that are critical to that launch or critical to that development or ongoing development of that new product? So are those folks then looking at that and making sure that they need to be where they need to be?

So, by the end of the summer, if you’re not in that planning phase, you should be in that planning phase. So that by the end of the summer, your foreign national employees should be in a secure, durable status, whether that’s in the United States or whether it’s in the country that you need to get them to be in so that they can remain there long-term. So before the election, thinking about do they need to have their visas extended? If you haven’t already filed for green cards, you need to start doing that now because we know how long that process can take, especially here in the United States. By January we’re going to be in a reactionary environment, especially here in the United States. I would imagine in some of the other countries as well — as you mentioned, U.K., India, Mexico. If you’re waiting until after the election, it’s going to be most likely too late in order to get those folks to that area, or the wait times are going to be so long because now all of us are going to be jumping to make sure we’re getting those employees protected.

So really start sitting down, thinking about what that looks like now. Urge your employees to frontload any family travel, extensions, visa renewals this year so that you can kind of sit back and relax a little bit and only deal with the crises that you need to, depending upon how the elections turn out.

Singhal: Wow, that was a lot. Actually, what you made me do the math on and realize as you were talking was we’re less than six months away from the elections. Wow, oh my god.

Okay, so the key thing there that you said was for folks, our audience, if you aren’t already in the planning phase, get on it now. You don’t have time to lose — there’s absolutely no good that’s going to come from waiting to see what comes of it. Start planning now and start thinking through what might be some of the actions you need to take to be ready for whatever the outcome might be.

You and I didn’t discuss this previously ahead of this conversation, but I wonder if you might be able to provide any update and/or perspective on this — and totally fine if not — but the State Department launched the H-1B visa renewal pilot program after many years of everyone asking for it. I know WERC was very active in advocating for it, and you as part of the Immigration Policy Forum did a lot of work in that regard as well. I was recently, I think it was at the BAM meeting, was sharing the stage with a visa analyst from the State Department, and she was talking about that they’ve gotten feedback, they’ve gone through the feedback cycle, they’re evaluating the feedback. Is there any update on when they’re going to expand that program? Because as I understood it, they started with four countries and that’s where it’s been at so far.

Duehning: That’s a really great question. So yes. First off, all of the responses back they’ve said have been super helpful — they it was by all accounts very successful. They plan to keep it and they do want to expand it.

Obviously, they’re still building up their team. So I think it’s kind of a twofold, where they are building up their team so that they can sort of open it up to all categories — they don’t want to continue to limit it, they do want to be able to open up to several categories — and basically anybody who’s eligible to meet that renewal process. But in the same terms, they need to build up their team. So I think from what I was told is they’re in that process of building up that team, and then based upon that capacity, they’re looking at how they can continue to build out.

What they really do is they are really just running — it’s a data numbers game, right? They don’t want it to be so flooded that it becomes a bad experience for everybody, so they’re really looking at it from that strategic angle of how can they increase based upon the staffing levels that they’re at so that it continues to be a quick, efficient way for people to get that visa renewal, but it doesn’t flood them so much that then it becomes a bad experience. So I think that’s what we’re looking for.

They’ve not been very specific in the discussions that I’ve had with them about exactly when they plan, but they do plan to be looking — from my understanding — they were looking at this summer or early fall in terms of continuing to expand and looking at what does that look like and what capacity do they have. Again, understanding all of this could go away under a Trump administration, so I think they really want to be able to build the program so that it’s more difficult to take away than to end it.

Singhal: That was going to be my follow-up question on that. So for anyone that’s not familiar with this, what Kelli and I were just talking about and what Kelli was providing an update on was essentially this pilot program launched by the State Department that allows for — well, before the launch of the pilot program, essentially if you have an H-1B that was expiring and you needed to get it renewed, you would actually have to leave the country and wait outside until it was renewed to come back in, which is obviously very disruptive for businesses that employ folks on H-1B visas. And so this pilot program for a select group of countries — or nationals from a select group of countries that meet certain criteria — allows them to file for renewal without having to leave the country and go through that disruptive process. So that that was what we were just talking about. Thank you, Kelli, for weighing in on that.

So, just to be sure, you said under a Trump administration that could actually disappear potentially?

Duehning: It could, yep, exactly — because that would definitely be something that, again, even though it’s legal immigration and even though it’s people that are already here, that administration as we saw in his first term would certainly be looking at ways to slow that process down or shut the process down altogether.

So that’s really what they’re looking at is, they know they can’t obviously completely shut down the U.S. immigration program, but they are looking for ways that it just takes it a lot longer for people to actually either get the visa, renew their visas, be able to continue to work in the United States. And so we would certainly expect something like this to either put be put on hold or just go away all together.

Singhal: All right, well, not a not a fun thought for anyone who has employees and folks that are on H-1Bs that are coming up for renewal. Maybe try and accelerate getting them into the renewal process or do what you need to based on the earlier suggestion from Kelli of don’t wait, get planning now and acting as soon as you can, given the uncertainty.

Kelli, I wanted to thank you very much for your time — these were great updates. Thank you for sharing these. I obviously always love talking to you — your wealth of knowledge and your background is fantastic and so it’s always fun, and I’m sure I’ll talk to you another time soon.

This is obviously important for me — the key takeaway is essentially: Folks should really stay informed on the differences in immigration policy and what impact that might have on what comes into effect, depending on the result of the U.S. elections later this year, the presidential elections. And then start planning and start acting on things that make sense and would be important for your business rather than wait and be in a reactive mode afterwards.

So thank you again, Kelli. I appreciate you taking the time and look forward to seeing you very soon.

Duehning: Great, thank you so much! It was wonderful discussing these, and as you said, I know we’ll continue the conversation, and I’m happy to be a part of it in making sure everybody feels prepared and ready. We all have to work together as a team on this, so looking forward to that.

Singhal: I very much appreciate, on behalf of WERC and the industry, appreciate your personal efforts as part of the Immigration Policy Forum and BAL’s support of WERC. So thank you for that! Have a good one. Bye!